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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179049079" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179049079">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just a reminder to <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> that we have a planning meeting today that starts in 31 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179049105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179049105">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the meantime, you all can look over the meeting proposals over <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal">here</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179050899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179050899">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> -- planning meeting in <strong>10 minutes</strong> =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179050945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179050945">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>omg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179050957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179050957">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I may have completely messed up my own schedule</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179050998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179050998">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh do you have a conflict?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051155">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051161">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was supposed to have a call at 9am</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051173">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it looks like it got moved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051181">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's a big mess, let me sort if out :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051191">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>why are there two Zulip threads?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051202">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>er, sorry, I missed the other one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051286">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if we can merge them... Done!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051424">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok so I have this last minute call and might be a bit late</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051446">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wanted to propose a meeting but looks like I won't hvae time</p>



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<p>not sure how long this call will last</p>



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<p>sorry :/ :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051633">(Oct 25 2019 at 13:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will plan to go ahead and schedule the next three design meetings nonetheless</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051870">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then, hi again to <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179051937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179051937">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets first have five minutes for any announcements</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052337">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay its looking like we don't have any today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052348">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>just one little thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052392">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>we created a <a href="#narrow/stream/212497-t-compiler.2Fhelp-wanted" title="#narrow/stream/212497-t-compiler.2Fhelp-wanted">t-compiler/help-wanted stream</a></p>



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<p>great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052413">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>if someone have tasks to hand to new contributors that would be a good place to do so :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052420">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>it will be interesting to see how that works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052430" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052430">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep, an experiment :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052432">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully we can get more people onboarded that way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052484">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, as for steering this month: there are <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal+-label%3Ameeting-scheduled+" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal+-label%3Ameeting-scheduled+">8 open unscheduled meeting proposals</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052489">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>got a lot of interest out of a tweet I sent, like 15 replies of people joining</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052660">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177</a> was decided and merged behind a flag?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052669">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me double-checks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052706">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Technical</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a> "A unified framework for dataflow analysis"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> "incremental dep-graph storage"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a> "merge llvm.sideeffect change"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a> "Migrate rustc_inferface queries"</li>
</ul>
<p>Non-technical (I think)</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">compiler-team#209</a> "major changes proposal"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a> "compile time analysis and assistance" (non-technical; read the propsal!)</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> "working group review"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/184">compiler-team#184</a> "Constitutional Convention"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/90" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/90">compiler-team#90</a> "Maintenance and triage"</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052707">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>when are we moving that out of the -Z flag?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052878">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I suppose that might end up being what the meeting is about? How we decide 1. how to measure the impact, and 2. whether to takes steps to mitigate the impact before moving the change out of the <code>-Z</code> flag ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052887">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah 177 is merged.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052893">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>didn't we discuss "constitutional convention"? (also... that's a very American title...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052974" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052974">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_convention_(political_meeting)" target="_blank" title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_convention_(political_meeting)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_convention_(political_meeting)</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052975">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> as soon as people run benchmarks and stuff.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179052988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179052988">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Its French too (and several others: Ireland, Scotland, EU)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053016">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>just opened</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/compiler/team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/compiler/team/issues/209">compiler/team#209</a> -- major changes proposal </li>
</ul>
<p>but I'm still on a call :). The idea here would be to try and formalize a bit more the steps for making major changes. This is something <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> and I have discussed on and off.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053043">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>(ok, that's probably all I can do until this call ends)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053068" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053068">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Working link <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053160">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>didn't we discuss "constitutional convention"?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(I don't recall having a discussion, but its possible I was absent.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053224">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>well a co-lead was elected</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053225">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>the constitutional convention proposal <em>might</em> heavily overlap with the maintenance/triage proposal, though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053333">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, well, lets at least figure out how <em>this</em> meeting should be run</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053352">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span> I think we need to set a deadline beyond which this is merged (benchmarks or not).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053375">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do like the implied first step we're taking so far: Trying to cull the list of topics via trivial metrics (like "we already did that")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053548">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, it turns out that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a> was actually a non-technical proposal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053616">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(We're 20 minutes in btw; and 40 minutes left?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053663">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>The typical cadence we are seeking is to have a planning meeting (this), then two technical meetings, then the non-technical meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053701">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are actually four technical proposals on the table</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053726">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a>, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a>, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a>, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053763">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so here's my suggestion: try to spend the next 15 minutes choosing which two of the above we want to dedicate two technical slots to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053882">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll try to take notes over here: <a href="https://hackmd.io/o9vSvOBXTPeDlLXFzdu_5Q" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/o9vSvOBXTPeDlLXFzdu_5Q">https://hackmd.io/o9vSvOBXTPeDlLXFzdu_5Q</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053894">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>so that I stop scrolling up to the summary comment that I wrote and editting it in place, which is no good for any one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053935">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone here have any instinct about whether we'd get the benchmark data we want regarding llvm.sideeffect in the next two weeks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053936">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(still only vaguely following, but I suggest we follow-up on the preous Zoxc meeting, as we discussed, for one of those)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179053944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179053944">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span> ^ ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054047">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>My current instinct is that we are <em>not</em> likely to acquire the actionable data in the next two weeks, unless someone with a fire under their butt is currently working to gather it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054068" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054068">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and therefore I'm inclined to just remove <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a> from consideration for today's planning meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054100" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054100">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(still only vaguely following, but I suggest we follow-up on the preous Zoxc meeting, as we discussed, for one of those)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a> is a Zoxc PR, but I don't think I'd call it "follow-up on te the previous Zoxc meeting" ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054142">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh wait, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> "incremental dep-graph storage" is the follow-up to the previous Zoxc meeting, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054209">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, yes it is I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054218" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054218">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think that's a pretty important area for us to attack</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054221">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(confirm)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054249">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>and therefore I'm inclined to just remove <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a> from consideration for today's planning meeting</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Well if we remove it from the planning schedules, I think the compiler team should at least devote efforts to gathering the data</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054272">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. I suspect <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a>  is more important than <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054276">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Well if we remove it from the planning schedules, I think the compiler team should at least devote efforts to gathering the data</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(i wasn't saying we'd remove it from the proposals lists forever. just that it doesn't seem like we'd be able to take action this month.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054452">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>  I assumed so, but I think there needs to be some effort to get it back on the proposals list maybe <em>next</em> month or the one after that...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054457">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Under the assumption that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a>, and under a further assumption that we probably should invite diversity in terms of the subjects of each meeting (i.e., don't have a pair of meetings back-to-back that focus on the works of a single contributor) ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054525">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span>  I assumed so, but I think there needs to be some effort to get it back on the proposals list maybe <em>next</em> month or the one after that...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think the reasonable thing here is to try to figure out who is going to do the data-gathering work, and when.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054542">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>but determining that need not take up a design meeting slot.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054583" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054583">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I believe <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> had mentioned that they could gather data on FF..?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054601">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Under the assumption that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/175">compiler-team#175</a>, and under a further assumption that we probably should invite diversity in terms of the subjects of each meeting (i.e., don't have a pair of meetings back-to-back that focus on the works of a single contributor) ...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>... sorry, got side-tracked. All I was going to say was: It seems like the obvious thing to do here is to use one slot for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> and another slot for the fourth remaining proposal, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054764">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(I believe <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="124287">mw</span> had mentioned that they could gather data on FF..?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>okay yes I <a href="https://zulip-archive.rust-lang.org/131828tcompiler/10812designmeeting20190927.html#176750290" target="_blank" title="https://zulip-archive.rust-lang.org/131828tcompiler/10812designmeeting20190927.html#176750290">found the record</a> of that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054873">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, what do people think of that pair of proposed topics: one slot gets <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a>, and another gets <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a>  ? We still need to figure out <em>which dates</em> are best for each</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054913" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054913">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Those seem like good topics to discuss, yeah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179054976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179054976">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(ok, my call  is done, sorry)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055003">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay then this is what's on the table currently:</p>
<p>Technical</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a> "A unified framework for dataflow analysis"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> "incremental dep-graph storage"</li>
</ul>
<p>Non-technical (I think)</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">compiler-team#209</a> "major changes proposal"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a> "compile time analysis and assistance" (non-technical; read the propsal!)</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> "working group review"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/184">compiler-team#184</a> "Constitutional Convention"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/90" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/90">compiler-team#90</a> "Maintenance and triage"</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055063" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055063">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>lets first have five minutes for any announcements</p>
</blockquote>
<p>what if I just remembered something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055072">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Unblocking Zoxc seems like a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055091">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> usually I like to allow people to make announcements at the end?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055129">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> do you have an announcement that would change the course of this <del>river</del> meeting ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055163">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>so one thing is that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> prompted me to write this up as an issue but I don't think he added it anywhere to be discussed <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407</a> (and we already landed a bit of it in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/65583" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/65583">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/65583</a>, before any discussion here)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055176">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can go back to this after everything else, that's fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055190">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>just bad planning on my part</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055198" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055198">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055271">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055273">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that does seem like an imp't topic to discuss, and well suited to a design meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055287">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I guess hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055294">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>would we be better off doing <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407">#65407</a> instead of the dataflow analysis meeting (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a>) ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055309">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>it is actually in some sense narrow in scope too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055343">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>doubtful, assuming we're talking about <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="118594">@ecstatic-morse</span>'s dataflow (which is more important than metadata stuff)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055350">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, we are</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055359">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055397">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was going to say <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> that we could also try to arrange a "one-off" meeting time with key folks to dig more into that too, I dont' think design meetings have to be the <em>only</em> time to have discussions, just a minimum amount of time :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055411">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>finally unblocking control-flow in CTFE - it's nothing short of a miracle :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055492" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055492">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, maybe we can spend five minutes choosing which <em>non-technical</em> topic we will do in the next three weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055510">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then after we've picked that, we can figure out the scheduling of all three?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055550" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055550">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>wfm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055569">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>my personal inclination is that we either do the Working Group review (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a>) or the major changes proposal (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">compiler-team#209</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055586">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>me as well; in fact, I may just close <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055652" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055652">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>you don't think <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a> is likely to bear fruit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055668">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>or its just not worth spending a friday meeting on?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055682">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I like <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/161">compiler-team#161</a>, but I'm biased because I recently got the chance to get into something like this for a potential client</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055777">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>(part of my motivation here <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> is that I think this may be seomthing that is not really a job for compiler team -- the extent of our role might be to help "connect" clients to people like yourself or others)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055780">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think both <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> and <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">compiler-team#209</a> have potential to let us identify problems in our development processes and maybe help smooth out those processes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055793">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>improving <code>-Zself-profile</code> further would go a long way and maybe that's something that we can discuss in that area</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055801">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is why I think they are high on my priority list of non-technical topic areas</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055855">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, me too.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055874">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I lean mildly towards the "retrospective"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055887">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>in that I think it'd be good for us to reflect on the many changes we made</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055893">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and in general it's good for us to reflect more often :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055911">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems like it would, in turn, potentially inform <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/209">compiler-team#209</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055912">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>right. and that reflection might in turn inform the major changes proposal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179055927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179055927">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>boom, great minds think alike (and so do we)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056037">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then, that's five minutes spent but I think we identified <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> as our non-technical topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056107">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Lets talk scheduling then.</p>
<p>Topics are:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a> "A unified framework for dataflow analysis"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> "incremental dep-graph storage"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> "working group review"</li>
</ul>
<p>Dates are: </p>
<ul>
<li>November 1</li>
<li>November 8</li>
<li>November 15</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056167">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>How do people look in terms of conflicts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056240">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I am available all of those dates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056243">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>is <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="118594">@ecstatic-morse</span> around? and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116466">@Zoxc</span> ? to report on which of the above dates they are available?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056275">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>and how about <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> ? (I think they told us they couldn't be here today, so I guess I won't know.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056369">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>(in hindsight I should ask people with relevant proposals to supply their availability for the coming weeks well before the planning meeting, I guess.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056393" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056393">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh man</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056398" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056398">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes that would be smart</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056419">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should make an entry on the compiler team calendar to help us remember to do this :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056431" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056431">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well in any case, I'm currently inclined to just go right down the list for now, i.e. put <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a> on november 1st, etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056434">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, create some docs in forge like "how to run a X meeting"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056449">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah let's do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056488">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay great. I think that's everything then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056498">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>any closing announcements?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056500">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056506">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>RFC 2008 <code>#[non_exhaustive]</code> was just stabilized (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/64639" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/64639">#64639</a> landed)! The initial implementation of that was my first rustc PR (just 10 days short of 2 years ago), so thanks to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126804">@Ariel Ben-Yehuda</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> and everyone else who helped with that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056562">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will say: if you want new twitter followers, a great trick is to get Niko to tweet that you are the new co-lead for T-compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056582" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056582">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>drat, you're making me regret quitting twitter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056593">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>do not regret that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056627" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056627">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>also I think it's amusing that this is <code>:wedding</code> <span aria-label="wedding" class="emoji emoji-1f492" role="img" title="wedding">:wedding:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056631">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I did have a broad question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056633">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I guess there are hearts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056641" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056641">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>(sorry, was just browsing emoji, looking for new favorites)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056644">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps aimed at <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> but maybe T-release in general</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056671" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056671">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> do you typically run the whole test suite? I know you were blocked on that debuginfo test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056725">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the other ones all typically work for you? What is your development platform?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056743">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> let's see, 1sec</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056787">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I ask because I usually don't run e.g. the <code>codegen</code> tests, and today I tried it (and the <code>codegen-units</code> tests, the <code>run-make-fulldeps</code>, etc) for the first time in a while, and got some unhappy failures on my mac</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056792">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Description:    Ubuntu 19.04<br>
Linux centrilnas2 5.0.0-25-generic <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/26" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/26">#26</a>-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 1 12:04:58 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056795">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have one test I automatically remove on every build after checkout on the server (<code>src/test/debuginfo/issue-22656.rs</code>) to avoid failures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056841">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> if I'm doing rollups or infra-related work I will typically <code>./x.py clean &amp;&amp; ./x.py test</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056926">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so I'll take that as a yes, they all tend to pass (apart from the debuginfo ones that we are going to be <code>// ignore</code>ing soon if we haven't already.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179056935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179056935">(Oct 25 2019 at 14:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(but <code>./x.py check</code> and <code>./x.py -i test src/test/ui --stage 1 --pass check --bless</code> otherwise)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179057117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179057117">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then, that's an hour!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179057137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179057137">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks to everyone in <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> for attending!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179057140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179057140">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179057311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179057311">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> btw if you think <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65407</a> should be discussed at some point, would be good to point me to what I need to do on top of having that issue description</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059070">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>PS, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>, I'm going to do the 'follow up' to this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059123">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'm goign to open a quick doc explaining what it is :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059132" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059132">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>to the planning meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059133">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Lets talk scheduling then.</p>
<p>Topics are:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/202">compiler-team#202</a> "A unified framework for dataflow analysis"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/199">compiler-team#199</a> "incremental dep-graph storage"</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/187">compiler-team#187</a> "working group review"</li>
</ul>
<p>Dates are: </p>
<ul>
<li>November 1</li>
<li>November 8</li>
<li>November 15</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>these were our end results</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059149">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>to the planning meeting?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, i.e., I always make some announcements, update the compiler team calendar, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059155">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see, okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059191">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I probably should figure out how to help with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059199">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>do I have permissions to edit the calendar?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059201">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's why I will write it down</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059204">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>don't know :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179059218" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179059218">(Oct 25 2019 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay we'll find out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202019.10.25/near/179212283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mw <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202019.2E10.2E25.html#179212283">(Oct 28 2019 at 08:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>The current date (Nov 1) for the dep-graph meeting works for me</p>



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